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DistroWatch.com: Debian

Debian

Last Update: 2017-10-20 06:20 UTC


The Debian Project is an association of individuals who have made common cause to create a free operating system. This operating system is called Debian. Debian systems currently use the Linux kernel. Linux is a completely free piece of software started by Linus Torvalds and supported by thousands of programmers worldwide. Of course, the thing that people want is application software: programs to help them get what they want to do done, from editing documents to running a business to playing games to writing more software. Debian comes with over 50,000 packages (precompiled software that is bundled up in a nice format for easy installation on your machine) - all of it free. It's a bit like a tower. At the base is the kernel. On top of that are all the basic tools. Next is all the software that you run on the computer. At the top of the tower is Debian -- carefully organizing and fitting everything so it all works together.

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Debian Summary
Distribution Debian (formerly Debian GNU/Linux)
Home Page http://www.debian.org/
Mailing Lists http://lists.debian.org/
User Forums http://forums.debian.net/
Alternative User Forums LinuxQuestions.org
Documentation http://www.debian.org/doc/
Debianizzati (Italian)
Debian Administrator's Handbook
Screenshots http://screenshots.debian.net/DistroWatch Gallery
Screencasts
Download Mirrors http://www.debian.org/distrib/ftplist
Debian on CD
Bug Tracker http://bugs.debian.org/
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Recent Related News and Releases
  Releases, download links and checksums:
 • 2017-06-18: Distribution Release: Debian 9
 • 2015-04-26: Distribution Release: Debian GNU/Linux 8.0
 • 2013-05-05: Distribution Release: Debian GNU/Linux 7.0
 • 2011-02-06: Distribution Release: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0
 • 2009-02-15: Distribution Release: Debian GNU/Linux 5.0
 • 2009-02-01: Development Release: Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 RC2
 • 2008-11-13: Development Release: Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 RC1
 • 2008-10-24: Distribution Release: Debian GNU/Linux 4.0r5
 • 2008-08-27: Development Release: Debian Live 5.0 Beta 1
 • 2008-07-27: Distribution Release: Debian GNU/Linux 4.0r4
 • 2008-06-09: Development Release: Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 Beta 2
 • 2008-02-17: Distribution Release: Debian GNU/Linux 4.0r3
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 •2017-10-15 Debian publishes 9.2.1 media
 •2017-09-21 Debian enabling AppArmor
 •2017-08-24 Purism working on free software phone
 •2017-08-17 Debian on mobile devices
 •2017-08-09 Using Flatpak to backport new software
 •2017-08-08 Debian disables old TLS versions
 •2017-08-04 Future of Debian Live
 •2017-07-22 New media for Debian 9
 •2017-07-19 Interview with Chris Lamb
 •2017-06-21 Debian replaces live images
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Feature unstable
sid
testing
buster
9
stretch
8.0
jessie
7.0
wheezy
6.0
squeeze
5.0
lenny
4.0
etch
3.1
sarge
3.0
woody
2.2
potato
2.1
slink
2.0
hamm
1.3
bo
1.2
rex
1.1
buzz
Feature
Release Date 2017-10-20 2017-10-20 2017-06-18 2015-04-26 2013-05-04 2011-02-06 2009-02-15 2007-04-08 2005-06-06 2002-07-19 2000-08-15 1999-03-09 1998-07-23 1997-06-05 1996-12-12 1996-06-17 Release Date
End Of Life       2020-05 2018-05 2016-02                     End Of Life
Price (US$) Free Free Free Free Free Free Free Free Free Free Free Free Free Free Free Free Price (US$)
Image Size (MB)     28-3700                         Image Size (MB)
Free Download ISO ISO ISO ISO ISO ISO ISO ISO ISO ISO ISO ISO ISO ISO ISO ISO Free Download
Installation Graphical Graphical Graphical Graphical Graphical Graphical Graphical Graphical Text mode Text mode Text mode Text mode Text mode Text mode Text mode Text mode Installation
Default Desktop GNOME GNOME GNOME GNOME GNOME GNOME GNOME GNOME GNOME GNOME GNOME GNOME         Default Desktop
Package Management DEB DEB DEB DEB DEB DEB DEB DEB DEB DEB DEB DEB DEB DEB DEB DEB Package Management
Release Model Rolling Semi Fixed Fixed Fixed Fixed Fixed Fixed Fixed Fixed Fixed Fixed Fixed Fixed Fixed Fixed Release Model
Office Suite Calligra, GOffice, LibreOffice Calligra, GOffice, LibreOffice Calligra, GOffice, LibreOffice Calligra, GOffice, KOffice, LibreOffice Calligra, GOffice, KOffice, LibreOffice GOffice, KOffice, OO.o GOffice, KOffice, OO.o GOffice, KOffice, OO.o GOffice, KOffice, OO.o KOffice -- -- -- -- -- -- Office Suite
Processor Architecture amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, ppc64el, s390x amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, ppc64el, s390x amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, ppc64el, s390x amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x amd64, armel, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390x, sparc amd64, armel, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc amd64, alpha, arm, armel, hppa, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc amd64, alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, powerpc, s390, sparc alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, powerpc, s390, sparc             Processor Architecture
Init Software systemd systemd systemd systemd SysV SysV SysV SysV SysV SysV SysV SysV Upstart SysV SysV SysV Init Software
Journaled File Systems Btrfs, ext3, ext4, JFS, ReiserFS, XFS Btrfs, ext3, ext4, JFS, ReiserFS, XFS Btrfs, ext3, ext4, JFS, ReiserFS, XFS Btrfs, ext3, ext4, JFS, ReiserFS, XFS Btrfs, ext3, ext4, JFS, ReiserFS, XFS ext3, ext4, JFS, ReiserFS, XFS ext3, JFS, ReiserFS, XFS ext3, JFS, ReiserFS, XFS ext3, JFS, ReiserFS, XFS ext3, ReiserFS             Journaled File Systems
Multilingual Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Multilingual
Asian Language Support Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes cn, jp, kr, tw cn, jp, kr, tw cn, jp, kr, tw cn, jp, kr, tw cn, jp, kr, tw cn, jp, kr, tw cn, jp, kr, tw cn, jp, kr, tw Asian Language Support
Full Package List unstable testing 9 8.0 7.0 6.0 5.0 4.0 3.1 3.0 2.2 2.1 2.0 1.3 1.2 1.1 Full Package List
Package unstable
sid
testing
buster
9
stretch
8.0
jessie
7.0
wheezy
6.0
squeeze
5.0
lenny
4.0
etch
3.1
sarge
3.0
woody
2.2
potato
2.1
slink
2.0
hamm
1.3
bo
1.2
rex
1.1
buzz
Package
abiword (3.0.2) 3.0.2 3.0.2 3.0.2 3.0.0 2.9.2 2.8.2 2.6.4 2.4.6 2.2.7 1.0.2 0.7.7 -- -- -- -- -- abiword (3.0.2)
alsa-lib (1.1.4.1) 1.1.3 1.1.3 1.1.3 1.0.28 1.0.25 1.0.23 1.0.16 1.0.13 1.0.8 0.9.0beta12 0.4.1e 0.1.1 -- -- -- -- alsa-lib (1.1.4.1)
ati-driver (16.40) -- -- -- 14.301.1001 8.980 8.771 8.12 8.28.8 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ati-driver (16.40)
bash (4.4.12) 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.3 4.2 4.1 3.2 3.1 2.05b 2.05a 2.03 -- -- 2.0 1.14.7 1.14.6 bash (4.4.12)
bind (9.11.2) 9.10.6 9.10.3 9.10.3-P4 9.9.5 9.8.4-P1 9.7.2-P3 9.5.1 9.3.4 9.2.4 8.3.3 8.2.2-P7 8.1.2 8.1.2 4.9.7 4.9.4-P1 4.9.3-P1 bind (9.11.2)
chromium (62.0.3202.62) 61.0.3163.100 61.0.3163.100 59.0.3071.86 41.0.2272.118 26.0.1410.43 6.0.472.63 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- chromium (62.0.3202.62)
cups (2.2.5) 2.2.5 2.2.4 2.2.1 1.7.5 1.5.3 1.4.4 1.3.8 1.2.7 1.1.23 1.1.14 1.0.4 -- -- -- -- -- cups (2.2.5)
dhcp (4.3.6) 4.3.5 4.3.5 4.3.5 4.3.1 4.2.2 4.1.1-P1 3.1.1 3.0.4 3.0.1 2.0pl5 2.0pl4 1.0.2 1.0.2 -- -- -- dhcp (4.3.6)
e2fsprogs (1.43.7) 1.43.7 1.43.6 1.43.4 1.42.12 1.42.5 1.41.12 1.41.3 1.39 1.37 1.27 1.18 -- -- 1.10 1.06 1.02 e2fsprogs (1.43.7)
firefox (56.0.1) 56.0 52.4.0 52.2.0 31.6.0 10.0.12 3.5.16 3.0.6 2.0.0.3 1.0.4 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- firefox (56.0.1)
freetype (2.8.1) 2.8.1 2.8 2.6.3 2.5.2 2.4.9 2.4.2 2.3.7 2.2.1 2.1.7 1.4pre 1.3.1 1.2 1.0 0.3 -- -- freetype (2.8.1)
gcc (7.2.0) 7.2.0 7.2.0 6.3.0 4.9.2 4.7.2 4.4.5 4.3.2 4.1.1 3.3.5 2.95.4 2.95.2 2.7.2.3 2.7.2.3 2.7.2.1 -- 2.7.2 gcc (7.2.0)
gimp (2.8.22) 2.8.20 2.8.20 2.8.18 2.8.14 2.8.2 2.6.10 2.4.7 2.2.13 2.2.6 1.2.3 1.0.4 1.0.2 1.0.0 0.54.1 -- 0.54.1 gimp (2.8.22)
glibc (2.26) 2.24 2.24 2.24 2.19 2.13 2.11.2 2.7 2.3.6 2.3.2 2.2.5 2.1.3 2.0.7 2.0.7t 1.92 1.92 -- glibc (2.26)
gnome-shell (3.26.1) 3.26.1 3.22.3 3.22.3 3.14.2 3.4.2 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- gnome-shell (3.26.1)
gnucash (2.6.18-1) 2.6.17 -- 2.6.15 2.6.4 2.4.10 2.2.9 2.2.6 2.0.5 1.8.10 1.6.6 1.3.4 -- -- -- -- -- gnucash (2.6.18-1)
gnumeric (1.12.35) 1.12.32 1.12.32 1.12.32 1.12.18 1.10.17 1.10.8 1.8.3 1.6.3 1.4.3 1.0.8 0.47 0.3 -- -- -- -- gnumeric (1.12.35)
grub (2.02) 2.02 2.02 2.02beta3 2.02beta2 1.99 1.98 0.97 0.97 0.95 0.91 0.5.93.1 -- -- -- -- -- grub (2.02)
gtk+ (3.22.24) 3.22.24 3.22.24 3.22.11 3.14.5 3.4.2 2.20.1 2.12.11 2.8.20 2.6.4 2.0.2 1.0.6 1.0.6 1.0.4 -- -- -- gtk+ (3.22.24)
httpd (2.4.28) 2.4.27 2.4.27 2.4.25 2.4.10 2.2.22 2.2.16 2.2.9 2.2.3 2.0.54 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- httpd (2.4.28)
inkscape (0.92.2) 0.92.2 0.92.2 0.92.1 0.48.5 0.48.3.1 0.47.0 0.46 0.44.1 0.41 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- inkscape (0.92.2)
k3b (17.08.2) 2.0.3a 2.0.3a 2.0.3a 2.0.2 2.0.2 2.0.1 1.0.5 0.12.17 0.11.20 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- k3b (17.08.2)
kmod (24) 24 24 23 18 9 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- kmod (24)
libgnome (2.32.1) 2.32.1 2.32.1 2.32.1 2.32.1 2.32.1 2.30.0 2.20.1.1 2.16.0 2.8.1 1.4.1.4 -- -- -- -- -- -- libgnome (2.32.1)
libreoffice (5.4.2) 5.4.2 5.4.1 5.2.7 4.3.3 3.5.4 3.2.1 2.4.1 2.0.4 1.1.3 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- libreoffice (5.4.2)
linux (4.13.8) 4.13 4.13 4.9.30 3.16.7 3.2.41 2.6.32 2.6.26 2.6.18 2.4.27 2.2.20 2.2.16 2.0.36 2.0.34 2.0.29 2.0.27 2.0.0 linux (4.13.8)
Package unstable
sid
testing
buster
9
stretch
8.0
jessie
7.0
wheezy
6.0
squeeze
5.0
lenny
4.0
etch
3.1
sarge
3.0
woody
2.2
potato
2.1
slink
2.0
hamm
1.3
bo
1.2
rex
1.1
buzz
Package
lxde-common (0.99.2) 0.99.2 0.99.2 0.99.2 0.99.0 0.5.5 0.5.0 0.3.2.1svn -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- lxde-common (0.99.2)
mariadb (10.2.9) 10.1.28 10.1.26 10.1.23 10.0.16 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- mariadb (10.2.9)
mate-desktop (1.18.0) 1.18.0 1.18.0 1.16.2 1.8.1 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- mate-desktop (1.18.0)
mesa (17.2.3) 17.2.2 17.2.2 13.0.6 10.3.2 8.0.5 7.7.1 7.0.3 6.5.1 4.3.0 4.2.1 3.1 3.0 2.6 2.2 2.0 1.2.7 mesa (17.2.3)
mysql (5.7.20) 5.7.18 -- -- 5.5.43 5.5.30 5.1.49 5.0.51a 5.0.32 4.0.24 3.23.49 3.22.32 3.21.33b 3.21.31 -- -- -- mysql (5.7.20)
nautilus (3.26.0) 3.26.0 3.26.0 3.22.3 3.14.1 3.4.2 2.30.1 2.20.0 2.14.3 2.8.2 1.0.6 -- -- -- -- -- -- nautilus (3.26.0)
NVIDIA (384.90) 375.82 375.82 375.66 340.65 304.88 195.36.31 173.14.09 1.0-8776 1.0-7174 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- NVIDIA (384.90)
openbox (3.6.1) 3.6.1 3.6.1 3.6.1 3.5.2 3.5.0 3.4.11.1 3.4.7.2 3.3 3.2 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- openbox (3.6.1)
openjdk (8u151) 8u144 8u144 8u131 7u75 7u3 6b18 6b11 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- openjdk (8u151)
openssh (7.6p1) 7.6p1 7.6p1 7.4p1 6.7p1 6.0p1 5.5p1 5.1p1 4.3p2 3.8.1p1 3.4p1 1.2.3 1.2 -- -- -- -- openssh (7.6p1)
openssl (1.1.0f) 1.1.0f 1.1.0f 1.1.0f 1.0.1k 1.0.1e 0.9.8o 0.9.8g 0.9.8c 0.9.7e 0.9.6c -- -- -- -- -- -- openssl (1.1.0f)
perl (5.26.1) 5.26.0 5.26.0 5.24.1 5.20.2 5.14.2 5.10.1 5.10.0 5.8.8 5.8.4 5.6.1 5.4.5 5.4.4 5.4.4 5.3.7 5.3.7 5.2 perl (5.26.1)
php (7.1.10) 7.0 7.0 7.0.19 5.6.7 5.4.4 5.3.3 5.2.6 5.2.0 4.3.10 4.1.2 4.0.3pl1 3.0.5 3.0 2.0b10 -- -- php (7.1.10)
plasma-desktop (5.11.1) 5.10.5 5.10.5 5.8.6 4.11.13 4.8.4 4.4.5 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- plasma-desktop (5.11.1)
postfix (3.2.3) 3.2.3 3.2.3 3.1.4 2.11.3 2.9.6 2.7.1 2.5.5 2.3.8 2.1.5 1.1.11 19991231 -- -- -- -- -- postfix (3.2.3)
postgresql (10.0) 10 10 9.6.3 9.4.1 9.1.9 8.4.5 8.3.6 8.1.8 7.4.7 7.2.1 6.5.3 6.3.2 6.3.2 -- -- -- postgresql (10.0)
Python (3.6.3) 2.7.14 2.7.13 2.7.13 2.7.9 2.7.3 2.6.6 2.5.2 2.4.4 2.3.5 2.1.3 1.5.2 1.5.1 1.5.1 1.4.0 1.4.0 1.3 Python (3.6.3)
qt (5.9.2) 5.9.1 5.9.1 5.7.1 4.8.6 4.8.2 4.6.3 3.3.8b 3.3.7 3.3.4 2.3.1 1.45 1.40 1.33 1.2 -- -- qt (5.9.2)
samba (4.7.0) 4.6.7 4.6.7 4.5.8 4.1.17 3.6.6 3.5.6 3.2.5 3.0.24 3.0.14a 2.2.3a 2.0.7 2.0.5a 1.9.18p8 1.9.17p2 1.9.16p9 1.9.15p4 samba (4.7.0)
systemd (235) 235 235 232 215 44 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- systemd (235)
thunderbird (52.4.0) 52.3.0 52.3.0 45.8.0 31.6.0 10.0.12 3.0.11 2.0.0.19 1.5.0.10 1.0.2 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- thunderbird (52.4.0)
vim (8.0) 8.0 8.0 8.0 7.4 7.3 7.2 7.1 7.0 6.3 6.1 5.6 5.3 5.0 4.6 4.5 3.0 vim (8.0)
vlc (2.2.6) 2.2.6 2.2.6 2.2.6 2.2.0rc2 2.0.3 1.1.3 0.8.6h 0.8.6 0.8.1 0.2.92 -- -- -- -- -- -- vlc (2.2.6)
xfdesktop (4.12.4) 4.12.4 4.12.4 4.12.3 4.10.2 4.8.3 4.6.2 4.4.2 4.3.99.2 4.0.5 3.8.16 -- -- -- -- -- -- xfdesktop (4.12.4)
xorg-server (1.19.5) 1.19.5 1.19.5 1.19.2 1.16.4 1.12.4 1.7.7 1.4.2 1.1.1 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- xorg-server (1.19.5)

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Version: testing
Rating: 10
Date: 2017-10-19
Votes: 4


Debian is a great OS and I prefer the testing branch, probably because it is in the middle of the two extremes. I also use the Cinnamon desktop environment and have had no problems with it. After I installed Debian, I had a network problem, but fortunately, it was pretty easy to fix. Since then it has been smooth sailing.

If you are new to Linux and wish to try Debian, I would like to make a couple of suggestions. Ubuntu is based on Debian, and it's a great place to start. You can learn to use the command line in it and what you learn will make it easier to use Debian later. The second thing I would suggest is to start with the stable branch when you install Debian for the first time. It will be plenty challenging and you will gain a better understanding of the way Debian works.

I noticed that Debian has an average rating of 8.5, but I bet the rating for just testing and unstable would be a least 1 point higher. What I'm suggesting is that experienced Debian users really appreciate this distribution.


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Version: 9
Rating: 9
Date: 2017-10-18
Votes: 4


Stable, but needs plenty of setup afterwards, and it's an excellent learning experience.
Expect issues if your PC's peripherals require non-free firmware (WiFi). Use a LAN cable/adapter for installation.
Once everything is set up and configured, it's excellent to use and not bloated like Ubuntu.
I am using XFCE 4.12 and I do development on my machine, as well as browsing and listening to music.
Debian is used a lot, even on the International Space Station, proving it's stable and high quality. I recommend it.


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Version: 8.0
Rating: 7
Date: 2017-10-16
Votes: 5


Debian is the only distribution that I could hand-on-my-heart give a 10/10 to, outside of what I use.
That is, with one big exception I outline below.

The big pros:
'aptitude' is the master of all things
Debian devs and community are equally masterful

The big con:
'systemd' is not the 'con' for me. It's the long standing dev+user attitude to freedom that Debian stood for and then completely contradicted with it's move to systemd. It used to be I would listen to Debian evangelists (user+admins) drone on about freedom so long that I went off and downloaded a RedHat iso and in that time I installed and backed up three systems before they stopped talking. These days RedHat (who was, way back when) the polar opposite of the Debian puritans, are now masters of the init system those puritans rely upon.

I've been a distro-hopper for nigh-on 17 years now. I've seen the rise and fall of communities and packaging systems. The one stalwart that always gained my respect not as often as my iso downloads was Debian.
I've maintained it, supported it, administrated it and suggested it to others.

Package management systems have come and gone, and then, there is 'aptitude' and Debian. That jewel in the crown that got it right the first time; then there are noob spin-offs that dilute Debian "street-cred" (*cough* Ubuntu). What is better than a well placed apt-get install at the end of a long internet search?

If you understand why you shouldn't use Mint or Ubuntu for freedom sake, then you probably should be a Debian user (or maybe Slack), but then again, you probably went off to Devuan long ago and are actively subverting RedHat+Fedora on fora such as this.

It took me 17 years to learn what those Debian puritans knew about freedom, but what is Debian now? Is it a better distro and dev community or just a feeder for Ubuntu, just like Fedora is a bug-filled feeder for RHEL? You decide...


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